Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

[Ophidia]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

Do you think children born in the US to illegal immigrant parents should be given the status as American Citizen?

Nope. They're illegal, so their offspring should be illegal. And my tax dollars should not go to pay for their hospital & Ob/Gyn bills. My insurance just cut a bunch of hospitals off of their contract - if I can't afford to walk into any hospital I want for medical procedures, I don't think it's right that some illegal alien can do it on the gov'ment's tab.

[Medusa]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

How do you feel about standardized tests? Do you think they accurately indicate a student's knowledge or ability?

[Dufonce]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

How do you feel about standardized tests? Do you think they accurately indicate a student's knowledge or ability?

I think standardized testing is the most idiotic thing ever thought up. Our kids are getting stupider and stupider (or more and more stupid, depending on if you went through standardized testing yourself) because now rather than teachers teaching to make the kids learn, they teach them to pass standardized tests. The kids get those tests drilled into them and never learn anything else. Let me put it this way... when we had our 5 days of graduation practice at my high school, it took 3 of those days to get into alphabetical order.

[Simon Slade]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

How do you feel about standardized tests? Do you think they accurately indicate a student's knowledge or ability?

They can. They can show a student's knowledge, but only if the student is a good test taker.

[B. de Corbin]

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How do you feel about standardized tests? Do you think they accurately indicate a student's knowledge or ability?

They suck - they waste huge amounts of money and provide false, misleading information, while simultaneously giving the federal government absolute control over what is taught when in the schools.

[Ophidia]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

How do you feel about standardized tests? Do you think they accurately indicate a student's knowledge or ability?

I think standardized testing inhibits creativity, imagination, problem solving and open-mindedness. It encourages a black/white-right/wrong mentality because even in a multiple choice question there's usually only one right answer according to the test (making the occasional concession to 'All/None of the Above'). I used to get in trouble for writing commentary in the margins of my test booklets because I had to tell someone that sometimes other factors should be considered (as well as point out spelling, grammatical, contextual and factual errors).

[thalassa]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

I kick ass at standardized tests. Why? Because I know how to give *them* the answer *they* want to hear. But some of the smartest people I know suck at them. Why? ...for all of the reasons already listed.

So...when far smarter people than myself get crappier scores than I do...I'd say thats a fail.

[Storm]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

How do you feel about standardized tests? Do you think they accurately indicate a student's knowledge or ability?

I'm going to plead the 5th on this since I'm one of the monsters that makes a living developing science items for graduation assessments.

[magusphredde]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

How do you feel about standardized tests? Do you think they accurately indicate a student's knowledge or ability?

They are ok as a guide ... But it depends on the test and how it is administered ... Seems now days teaching plans and tests are based on the lowest denominator ... there goes the national average ... Can't have kids feeling bad about themselves ... Better not teach them how to compete ...









*gets all touchy feely with self*

[Medusa]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

Scenario. Two people in a relationship. One steps out and is with another person sexually etc etc. That person is obviously a cheater. But the person outside of the relationship....could that person be considered a cheater as well?

[FantasyWitch]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

I'd say yes. You are stepping on someone else's relationship so you are just as guilty as the cheating party.

[Medusa]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

I'd say yes. You are stepping on someone else's relationship so you are just as guilty as the cheating party.

But I didn't say they were not guilty. But technically they didn't make a commitment with anyone to be cheating. They are single..they are just...home wreckers! But I don't think they should be called cheaters.


*this question was brought up actually by a podcast I listen to and they had this exact debate!

[Ophidia]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

Scenario. Two people in a relationship. One steps out and is with another person sexually etc etc. That person is obviously a cheater. But the person outside of the relationship....could that person be considered a cheater as well?

I don't see how that person is 'obviously' a 'cheater'. What if the relationship is an open relationship? What if they are polyamorous?

I just don't have enough information to assume anything about any of the above parties.

[Medusa]

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I don't see how that person is 'obviously' a 'cheater'. What if the relationship is an open relationship? What if they are polyamorous?

I just don't have enough information to assume anything about any of the above parties.

I should have been clear(er). This is about cheating partners specifically and what you think you would call the outside person who was with said inside relationship person. The debate on the podcast was that one person believed the outside person was still technically a cheater. While the other side debated, no they were not since they had no allegiences to anyone. They were a free agent so to speak. I was curious as to which side people would take. I personally believe if someone has not made a commitment to you, they can't cheat on you. They are just....being an idiot for lack of a better word!

[Dufonce]

Re: Medusa's Question Du Jour *the millenium edition!*

Scenario. Two people in a relationship. One steps out and is with another person sexually etc etc. That person is obviously a cheater. But the person outside of the relationship....could that person be considered a cheater as well?

I've actually been in this sort of situation, and was totally unaware that my girlfriend at the time was not only already dating when we met, but apparently was engaged. (which never actually went through obviously)

So I was the guy outside her original relationship, however I didn't know she was in one. So it was still just her cheating. She even tried to justify it saying that she wasn't cheating on me, she was cheating on him with me. trying to make me feel better about it. lol